2022.08.24 Wednesday2 Cor 11:13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Elena, yes, thank you. Philippians 2:13. Importance of an open mind. So with that said, we all have to start somewhere and often its on the wrong path before we truly find our Lord. (As well as: 1 Thes 5:6, 8, 2 Tim 4:5, 1 Peter 1:13, 1 Peter 4:7). Perhaps if you took the time to look into this further, you might begin to see a lot of the deception surrounding this, as while I do appreciate your comment, and believe it to be sincere, the deception is still very strong. So, I dont think we really have differing views on this, as you can be led into a church, program or group to share the truth of Gods Word, without necessarily being a partaker in it. He wanted a specifically Christian addiction recovery group, so with the support of Rick Warren, Celebrate Recovery began as a ministry of Saddleback Church under Bakers leadership in 1990. The atmosphere had changed, and I could sense the Spirit strong with me, and guided my every step. I went on to expose AA and the 12-steps. These were also women who professed His Name, one even ironically being from Saddleback. Celebrate Recovery. Celebrate Recovery has been a great program for me as well as thousands of others that need the love and support of others. I believe that God has put me there for some reason so Im waiting on Him right now. (KJV), 1 John 2:22Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? Celebrate Recovery founder John Baker, who turned his testimony recovering from alcoholism into a biblical 12-step program used by more than 7 million people, died unexpectedly on Tuesday at age 72. It is a welcoming community and provided a perfect place for our retreat. During the past 25 years, some 20,000 churches in the United States have reportedly used CR, with some 2.5 million people having completed the program. I sat to the left of the CR group leader, which would mean that I would be the first to speak. St Boniface Church-Franciscans. The Bible tells us to hate sin and evil, to cut it out of our life. I fully agree! To find a group near you go to group finder on our web page:. Ive been attending CR (and volunteering on the welcome team ) for about a year. Recovery is a term that primarily denotes a process of physical healing. Love that has no price tag. When I was in CR (Celebrate Recovery) which I talk on within most of my post and testimony, is that God used me to bring His Light and truth to the darkness that both AA/CR have as a foundation. Whatever works to get them there or even the ones affected. So, with my final mission in view, with bible in hand, I walked into Celebrate Recovery for the last time. There is a saying I have heard often, which goes something like this, Relation of humility to sobriety. While growing up, I was familiar with the term AA and Alanon, as my grandfather was an alcoholic, as well as other family members. One of my last few meetings, the Spirit had come upon me so strong during my 5 minutes(we were only ever allowed to speak for 5 minutes) of talking that I exposed and rebuked the lie of Alcoholism being a disease, confronting it as the sin of drunkenness, that the saying once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic is a lie from the pit of hell, and that the the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ can set us free from all bondage, and that His Word says that we no longer need to be identified with our sin, once it has been repented and been crucified with Christ. Barb, thank you for commenting! From my experience and understanding, the reason why many people have a difficult time coming away from these programs/doctrines is because there is a spiritual bond(stronghold) that has taken place and it must be broken. Then they can turn their lives over to this god as they understand him. Thanks for your post. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Love that has no price tag. SPEAK TO SOMEONE TODAY. What is spiritual awakening? 22 Seriously Inspiring Quotes About Sobriety From Celebs Like Demi Lovato & Bradley Cooper. Yeshua is still in the healing and deliverance ministry. 70 percent of the people that attend are not church members because they feel that the churches have let them down. It wasnt until I became a facilitator that I began questioning the program. Dependence as a means to independence. 7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD(YHWH) your God. There is a good, acceptable and perfect will of God. It isnt just the impact he had on individual lives but on all of those who loved those who decided to walk into a Celebrate Recovery meeting.. In some ways I understand and even believe what you say. The group leader has been through step studies multiple times and still struggles with her problems. We admitted we were powerless over alcoholthat our lives had become unmanageable.Who cares to admit complete defeat? Leviticus 19:31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD(YHWH) your God. To Christ I conceded the certainty of a great man, not too closely followed by those who claimed Him. Jim, thank you for your comment. Recovery is not a straight road or an easy fix. There are many who have either themselves or known someone to have gone through AA, NA, Alanon, etc. He told me exactly what would happen, and how it would play out. (KJV), When we choose the difficult path, which often leads to affliction, we are choosing to partake in the sufferings of Christ, and this is part of what it means to pick up our cross daily. Official page of Celebrate Recovery. You don't have to face alcohol addiction alone, so give us a call today to get started at 888-448-0302. It means that the individual is returning to old ineffective coping strategies for dealing with life. As a result, people often walk out of worship services with their lives unchanged. There were malign and mischievous ones of all descriptions, telling of vices quite beyond my ken, even as former alcoholics. Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? It's important to realize relapse is more of a process as opposed to a mere lapse in judgment. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. 12 Steps and 8 Beatitudes; 2. Celebrate Recovery is a proven 25+ year old Christ-based 12-step program based on the Beatitudes. Step 12, not only speaks of New Age enlightenment, but blasphemes the true free gift, that of salvation, as well as the responsibility for a believer to share and take the gospel message to all, not the AA message. This is why it is so important to know who we are listening to when it comes to worship music, and where that music is originating from. Promote your Celebrate Recovery Chapter with a Full Color Vinyl Banner! At Southside Baptist Church, the purpose of our Celebrate Recovery program is to both fellowship and celebrate God's healing power in our lives through 12 Steps and 8 Recovery Principles. It is based on the actual words of Jesus rather than psychological theory. However, I knew what Yah had spoke to me, and He said that I shall be the first to speak. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. We become free from our addictive, compulsive, and dysfunctional behaviors. Too many churches judge them for who and what they are instead of trying to help them. I am going to go through these areas, and will be sharing what I have learned, what I have personally gone through, and what the Lord, or YHWH, has shown me, through the guidance of His Spirit. Bauxite mining would threaten birds, plants, and clean water. A.A. does not demand belief; Twelve Steps are only suggestions. I was not her sponsor for too much longer after that, as Father had other plans for me, and later led me to go to a program called Celebrate Recovery. In such ways we want them to get sober in any way that works for them so not to affect others. Wilson, or Bob for that matter, never professed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, never mentioned repentance, or that the only Way to the Father is through the Son. (KJV), Deuteronomy 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. Recognizing these dangers will help you avoid a possible problem in the future. 3 ; Recognize that Im not God. We are here for you online 24/7! To discern good fruit you have to know if the doctrine, character, or practice, aligns with the word of God, and this should be your measuring line. I too may have mixed feelings about this post. This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. We have all been lied to or deceived on some level or another, however once we know the truth, we are held accountable and can no longer hide under the mercy of the Father while we were in ignorance. With the introduction of The Landing-God's vision for Celebrate Recovery is now complete!" -John Baker "The Landing provides a safe place for students to share about their hurts, hang-ups, and habits and learn to apply the Principles of Celebrate Recovery to help them break the cycle of dysfunction in their families." - Johnny Baker Dr. Clint Archer is a pastor of many years whose international ministry has taken him to 22 different countries so far. He has taught the Bible and preached in places as varied as Russia, Northern Ireland, Bhutan, and Egypt. With Gods help, he showed again and again that those cycles can be broken, he said. Go and see for yourself. Also on the part of forgiveness, we ar encouraged to also forgive God. Celebrate Recovery (CR) meets at 6 p.m. Saturdays at Good Shepherd Church, 2341 S. Military Trail, West Palm Beach, featuring dinner, a big meeting and small open share groups. Jun 12, 2015 - Explore Raquel Aguillon's board "Celebrate Recovery ", followed by 229 people on Pinterest. While I want everyone to come to know Jesus Christ our Lord, it is ultimately their decision. 27). Or perhaps a sort of alternative that is more Christ centered such as Celebrate Recovery? The most common reason why people relapse after a period of sobriety is that they become stuck in recovery. I have yet to meet an alcoholic who can not relate to Proverbs 23:29-35 no matter what they believe in; its a great introduction for a drunk to the Word of God. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD(YHWH): and because of these abominations the LORD(YHWH) thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 1 bid. Do not ask others to meet your needs or desires. For myself, I had adopted those parts which seemed convenient and not too difficult; the rest I disregarded. (Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book, pg.11). It also anti-christ as it denies Yeshua/Jesus as the Only Way(1 Joh 2:22-23, Joh 14:6). If you need a program then check it out for yourself. Celebrate Recovery is credited with helping destigmatize addiction among evangelicals and opening the church up as a safer place for recovery. I am only going to provide, and go over a few of the steps, as I think it would be to exhaustive to go over every single one. It is strongly advised that they remain focused on themselves until their sobriety is strong. Happy are those who know they are spiritutally poor. Dangers of Celebratory Occasions in Recovery Most people in recovery will be prepared for their sobriety to be tested when times are hard. Just as I am whereever I am. nph: to be sober, to abstain from wine. It was then that woman after woman, that spoke after me, praised only the program. Until a chance encounter with my moms old Bible opened my eyes. This is what brings us to our Lord. He wrote out a vision for what would become Celebrate Recoverys own version of the 12 steps, each one paired with a teaching from Scripture, and shared it with Rick Warren back in 1991. Roadblocks of indifference and prejudice. for less than $4.25/month. Misuse of willpower. The desire of alcohol is a lust of the flesh. While a lapse can be a single event such as a poor decision of going . Step Two is a rallying point to sanity. They didnt attend any program, they just hit their rock bottom which is only decided by the individual suffering addiction. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.. Problems of intellectuality and self-sufficiency. | We have Graphic Designers to assist you | service@banners.com 1.866.419.SIGN. So, I kid you not, this woman looks at me, dead in the eye and says no, I think that Kellie should go first, I think she has something important to say. Plight of the disillusioned. It is mixing the Holy, and the profane. Sam, thank you for commenting. A perpetual drunkard, is being in perpetual sin, and those who do so, do not inherit the Kingdom. If there is darkness in the AA program leading people astray, what better place to set up a lamp stand? My faith was empowered, as I knew it was my time to speak His Words. Many of C.R.'s teachings are constructed from eisegesis rather than exegesis - misusing Scripture with an erroneous hermeneutic. The Scriptures make it quite clear that these practices are contrary to the way of the Lord(YHWH). It can come as a shock to many individuals to discover that the good times can also be a test as well. Gender-specific Groups meet for issues with anger, co-dependency, chemical addiction food addictions, sexual integrity, survivors of abuse, grief, and life issues. This is why I stress within my blog that this is leading people to accept a different gospel. The Dangers of AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) and Celebrate Recovery. And I believe that somewhere in their journey and even the ones affected from their addiction that they hit a rock bottom. This was a situation that I had never planned myself but was led through the Holy Spirit to go through and then lead others into the truths pertaining to these programs. Once a person has repented, turning from sin, they are no longer defined by that sin, but rather are set free, and become a new creation: 1 Cor 6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Thank you, Patty for sharing your thoughts and comment on this matter. Yes, you are correct in that we should never simply believe anyones word at something, and I am not offended if you do not believe my testimony. Admission of powerlessness is the first step in liberation. I understand how you could have mixed feelings about this, and I appreciate you sharing. Celebrate Recovery is simply AA but with a disguise of a false light, a false gospel and a false Jesus. Gods Word is clear about trying to mix pagan worship or other religions with His. For more info click on church name after choosing a province or territory. 1. Celebrate Recovery is a Christ-centered 12-step program designed for all "hurts, hangups, and habits," including those caused by emotional, mental, and spiritual dysfunction.As one of the seven largest addiction recovery support programs, Celebrate Recovery is designed to be a confidential place where attendees can work through their "stuff" in a safe and God-honoring place. 3525 /nph (be sober, unintoxicated) refers to having presence of mind (clear judgment), enabling someone to be temperate (self-controlled). First Baptist Church of Arnold (10.7 mi) 2012 Missouri State Road, Arnold, Missouri 63010 United States. The Birthright: Salvation and the Role of the Firstborn, Christmas Unwrapped: Why I No Longer Celebrate Christmas, The Deception of the New Age Awakening through DNA, Why I No longer Vaccinate: A Veterans Story. I have found that times when I am feeling too comfortable, that I am not growing or stepping out where I should be. It is a bafflement that many professing believers would condone and endorse such a program knowing the full thoughts, intentions, and beliefs of AA and its origins. Moving forward to my last few months at CR, Yah had revealed to me the full truth surrounding AA, as well as the foundation that Celebrate Recovery was built upon. Recovery signals a dramatic shift in the expectation for positive outcomes for individuals who experience mental and substance use conditions or the co-occurring of the two. Over the years, many celebrities have chosen to use their voices and their platforms to speak openly . Also, by their fruits you shall know people. Did Jesus change the water into wine or grape juice? How shall we let God into our lives? Prison Fellowship president James J. Ackerman collaborated with Baker to add Celebrate Recovery Inside to its curricula. (1) The Bible declares that drunkenness is a sin but those in Recovery believe it to be a disease. I couldnt wrap my mind around the Beatitudes being misrepresented in the steps of CR. Is Celebrate Recovery a biblically sound program? Alcoholism is not a disease. However, what is the true motive of this program, what is its foundation, and is it suitable for those who profess to be walking with Messiah? I dont go to CR meetings like I used to but at times I still go. Baker is survived by his wife and Celebrate Recovery cofounder, Cheryl; children Johnny and Jeni Baker and Laura and Brian Gibney; and their grandchildren. Compromise your own values and integrity to avoid . A sister meeting called The Landing is available for students in grades 7 and up. Within AA, the introduction is similar in the person identifies as their addiction, My Name is, and I am a drug addict/alcoholic. We are all broken and in need of a Saviour; my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,. Structured as an ongoing 52-week program, The Landing aims to help hurting teenagers get closer to Jesus as they learn key principles based on the Beatitudes to live a . Even if you do not believe God or His Word, consider this from the view of simple logic: how can a behavioral choice be a disease? He instead, as is mentioned in the Big Book(pgs 12-13), made his own god, professed this god to be the Father of Lights and was led by this god-consciousness from within, and insisted that all he had to do was believe in a power higher than himself, and nothing else was required. How should a Christian view addiction? I had provided her some more truth concerning Rick Warren, but ultimately she did not understand what my purpose was there, and told me that I could not come back to Celebrate Recovery. It is basically peddling the same lie that Satan spoke in the garden, in that both Adam and Eve would achieve knowledge apart from the wisdom of God. Christian Fellowship has an active missions program. I dont agree with that. The magnificent reality. However, you can pat yourself on the back for making it . The ministry has also expanded to serve the incarcerated, as the program became adopted by state prison systems in New Mexico, California, and beyond. John Baker continues to be the primary author of The Celebrate Recovery curriculum and materials (quoted from Wikipedia). Since 2005 we have been to India five times to conduct pastors' conferences and to visit the orphanage we support in Machilipatnam. I decided to leave after that, and not attend the meeting, and I didnt come back for a couple weeks. With 40% to 60% of those with a substance use disorder who receive treatment relapsing within the first year, some people even refer to relapse as a natural part of recovery. All rights reserved. To admit to be powerless over alcohol, does not address that it is a sin of drunkenness and a lust of the flesh, and needs to be repented of, as the Scriptures state, but rather that a combination of an allergy and mental obsession to bring a humility to sobriety. Likewise, the acceptance of false doctrine will also impair correct judgment and can lead to spiritual decay/death. Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? If God can work through the mouth of a mule he can work through anyone he chooses. 25 years ago, Saddleback Church launched Celebrate Recovery with 43 people. Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore them gently. People were healed and delivered from blindness, leprosy, epilepsy, demon-possession, sexual lusts and perversions, etc. We cannot trust our experiences and how we feel as a sole measure of something to be good. Start your new life now! Category: Group Celebrate Recovery. I was rejected by all those whom I shared the truth within CR that day, and I understood that would happen, because of what the Father had sent me to do. Baker immediately saw the need to connect the gospel with the recovery program he had gone through. I did not fully know why at that time, but I just did as the Spirit told me to do. After I spoke, the atmosphere was so thick, you could have cut it with a knife. I told her, I know, but it has nothing to do with with you telling me, but rather it was already the Fathers will for me not to come back after this. This program is not something that you complete and then all of sudden, Hey, Im better. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. It was designed as a program to help those struggling with hurts, habits and hang-ups . You said, Why do we need 12 steps when the only step our Saviour has told us to do is repent and turn away from sin/evil. 23No one who denies the Son can have the Father; whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well. I know several people who were addicts and now can occasionally partake in rare occasions because they no longer want the life they had before . So, it is important to keep ourselves pure from false doctrines and teachers. There is nothing greater than the blood of the Lamb, the true Creator of the Heavens of the earth, and the King of Kings Lord of Lords, Yeshua. The Dangers of Dishonesty in Recovery. The program seems to tip-toe around sin and evil instead of calling it out as such. Believing you are finally cured of your addiction. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Free Speech and Abortion Collide: Supreme Court Hears One of Its Biggest Cases of 2018, I Was the Proverbial, Drug-Fueled Rock and Roller, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest. With maturity comes discernment, and with discernment comes an understanding that just because something may have been beneficial, or helpful, does not mean that it is sanctioned by God. 2. The messiness of addiction is too much for many churches to handle. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The Celebrate Recovery Bible has been designed to work with the resources developed and tested in the national and international ministry of Celebrate Recovery. AA is just another false religion, trying to go in another way: We have no desire to convince anyone that there is only one way by which faith can be acquired(Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book, pg. To produce good fruit, a practice or program has to be sound in the word of God. TSF is the law of the land. It is like taking a pile of poop, and placing the Bible on top. 4. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Both alcohol and drugs impair judgment and control of the body. I understand that people, even those like myself, have been helped through these programs, however, the ultimate purpose of these programs are to lead people to dependency on the program itself, which is why in the 12th step of the AA program it teaches to: 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Joy of living is the theme of the Twelfth Step. By working and applying these Biblical principles, we begin to grow spiritually. How should a Christian view alcoholics? 6 Mar 2015. In my mens small group I couldnt talk about my struggle, and at AA, I couldnt talk about my Savior, since the program speaks in more secular terms about a Higher Power, he told CT in 2016. As such, the potential for a relapse to occur is very high. Celebrate Recovery is a ministry committed to seeing lives changed and healed through Christ. When I was very young in my faith and had little discernment into things and practices I was doing, I had gone to get a different kind of massage called a chakra massage. Substitution of A.A. as Higher Power. I am glad that you found this blog edifying. A. Celebrate Recovery operates as an extension of Fellowship Bible Church, a unique congregation focused on healing. Celebrate Recovery is just another type ofSyncretism, as mixes Gods ways with heathen ways. I believe sin is a sicknesses. Today, when individuals with mental and/or substance use disorders seek help, they are met with the knowledge and belief that anyone can recover and/or manage their conditions successfully. I am praying for God to show me what he wants me to do. As they had all turned their backs on Yeshua/Jesus and His Word, they then had no problem turning their back on me. Strongs Concordance God loves and sent His Son to die for us all. So far this year we have raised over $20,000.00 for missions. Is it a sin for a Christian to drink alcohol / wine? True sobriety is not only having control over the body, but also the mind. Action its keyword. (Mat 16:19-20). Thank you for your obedience. If you are in danger of hurting yourself or someone else, please call: 911 - Emergency or 988 - Suicide & Crisis Lifeline or 1-800-273-8255 HELP IS AVAILABLE. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. So, below I have steps 1-3, and 12, all of which were quoted directly from 12-Steps and 12-Traditions. What does the Bible say about drunkards? AA/NA holds people in bondage, making them think they are free. When he hit his bottom, he began attending daily AA meetings, working through the steps, and finding hope in a God who loved him unconditionally. Throughout scripture, Yeshua/Jesus tells us to not be deceived, and in order to obey that command, we have to be willing to test the practices, programs and doctrines we have accepted into our lives.
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